Trying to solder the ribbon cable on the display ended up breaking the ribbon cable. The cable looks like it’s a bit corroded inside anyway. Is there any reason I can’t just solder 30 tiny wires of appropriate length to the display pins and also to the pins on the ribbon cable slot? It won’t be pretty, but is there any good reason why it wouldn’t work?
plep wrote:
Just wanted to leave a comment to say my cables arrived today. When do you plan on getting installation instructions up?
As soon as I can find my camera. And the camera mount. And some free time. My fiancee is down with laryngitis (as in an actual throat infection laryngitis), so this doesn’t exactly have top priority at the moment.
Also, just a reminder – Payment is due by 11:59pm this Wednesday! If you fail to pay or contact me about payment, you will lose your allocated cables and they will be offered up on a first-come, first-serve basis. Ten buyers comprising 20 pairs of cables have not paid.
RetroDan wrote:
Whoo. Being sick sucks. Like HARDCORE.
RetroDan wrote:
My fiancee is down with laryngitis (as in an actual throat infection laryngitis
Looking forward to the cables arriving.
Hope you both start feeling better soon.
For my international buyers:
Sorry for the delay. I’m dealing with a recurring illness, though I have every intention of getting to the post office this Saturday. Last week, I got my ass kicked by the flu, or food poisoning, or SOMETHING that was the world’s most effective (if unpleasant) weight-loss plan. Then my fiancee caught bronchitis, and in a loving gesture, gifted me with a cold that has poleaxed me.
It has been a rather rotten couple of weeks, to be sure.
Rest assured, I haven’t forgotten about you lads, I’ve just had almost no energy and a cough that makes smokers blue with asphyixiatic envy.
Keep the faith, lads.
I’m not going to the Post Office today. Let me explain.
Something is going on with me – I don’t know what – but I’m suffering from pretty bad vertigo for the first time in my life, which is terrifying for someone who’s always been pretty healthy and who is very independent. My doctor says that it’s not uncommon for fluid buildup to mess with the inner ear.
But I’m not safe to drive. I took a five mile round trip to pick up some things from my mom’s house, and it was excruciating and extremely difficult. Maintaining balance is very difficult. My fiancee has offered to take care of the international packages for me on Monday, and I sincerely apologize for this further delay.
I’m honestly kind of scared. I’ve NEVER been sick like this. It makes me feel weak and dependent, and I don’t feel in control of myself. Even sitting in front of my computer, I’m dizzy and nauseated.
Aww, that sounds like no fun. Just take care of yourself Dan, health comes first. Hope it’s nothing and it goes away soon.
Hi Dan,
You just take some time out and get yourself sorted your Health & Family should always come first
We all understand & have no problem waiting; well I hope everyone does!
Take all the time you need. No biggie at all. The VB came out in 1995, we can wait a few extra weeks. 😛 Hope you get better fastly.
RetroDan wrote:
I’m not going to the Post Office today. Let me explain.Something is going on with me – I don’t know what – but I’m suffering from pretty bad vertigo for the first time in my life, which is terrifying for someone who’s always been pretty healthy and who is very independent. My doctor says that it’s not uncommon for fluid buildup to mess with the inner ear.
But I’m not safe to drive. I took a five mile round trip to pick up some things from my mom’s house, and it was excruciating and extremely difficult. Maintaining balance is very difficult. My fiancee has offered to take care of the international packages for me on Monday, and I sincerely apologize for this further delay.
I’m honestly kind of scared. I’ve NEVER been sick like this. It makes me feel weak and dependent, and I don’t feel in control of myself. Even sitting in front of my computer, I’m dizzy and nauseated.
ive had that. its normal, not dangerous at all just go to a chiropractor thats capable of ear and sinus adjustments.
On medication now. Still a bit fuzzy. All next week my business is closed for holiday, so I’ll be using that time to ship the last cable orders out.
Some users never responded, so I have some extra cables. Will update later.
Gah.
So I just get over the most terrifying illness of my life, and guess who gets called in to work during shutdown?
Me.
Not to worry. I’m at work now, but today is the last day of work I’m needed for. I’m hitting the post office in the morning and shipping out all the remaining cables.
Thank you all for your patience and understanding.
I also have prototypes coming for a completely redesigned solution that, if it works, will be scads easier to install, as well as…well, I’m not giving everything away just yet, but I guarantee that if it works, you will go absolutely bananas over.
At the Post Office right now, halfway through. Filling out customs declarations en masse is not fun. I’ll send each buyer a copy of their customs receipt when I get home.
Phew.
It appears that I have 14 pairs of cables available from buyers who did not pay. I’m holding on to four of them, but the other ten are first come first serve. I’m going to try a new installation method for the current cables that might be easier and more importantly, create a stronger bond. I’ll update the thread as I figure things out.
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This is the more ‘conventional’ solution of addressing the issues with my v1.7 VirtualCables. I’m keeping my really exciting solution under wraps until and unless I get all my materials and test pieces in and guarantee an easy, solid solution.
Changes from v1.7:
– Change from a Type B cable (connective ends on opposing layers) to Type A (connective ends on same layers). This means the end of the ‘normal’ installation method of pulling solder up and over pins, and the official adoption of the ‘revised’ installation method, whereby the user applies the soldering iron to the back side of the cable in order to heat the pads, thereby melting the solder and creating an incredibly strong mechanical/electrical connection.
– Removal of castellated holes from 0.6mm-pitch side. They have been replaced by normal holes, intended for orientation rather than connection. There simply wasn’t enough metal mass on the cable ends to form a good connection with castellations.
– Addition of pads for unconnected pads on board. I determined it was too easy for a user to simply miscount or slip while soldering, so the additional 6 dummy pads have been re-introduced in order to eliminate potential installation pitfalls.
– Introduction of test point vias. With the adaptation of the revised installation method, users need an easy way to make sure that their connections are good. Thus, each signal is given an individual, un-tented via (including both GND signals, though this is more for symmetry rather than effect) so that users may quickly and efficiently test each soldered connection one-by-one.
– Elongation of the Motherboard-Side Stiffener. The v1.7 Stiffener was determined to be useable, but too short for comfort or ease-of-use. Therefore, the length of the stiffener has been tripled, which should allow for a comfortable ZIF experience.
– Castellated cutouts for stability. On the LED board, the outermost pads branch out into geometric designs. Utterly useless for its intended function, but by introducing unconnected castellated cutouts, users will be able to orient the cable and use those stylistic pads to tack the cable in place without the possibility of damaging anything by having to remove and resolder a poorly oriented cable.
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so you went wit hthe face down method 😛 nice looking foward to trying these out 😛 will the solder be pre on the pads? if so make sure its leaded and tin 60 40 sodler not lead free sodler. lead free solder can grow tin wiskers
Nes Freak wrote:
so you went wit hthe face down method 😛 nice looking foward to trying these out 😛 will the solder be pre on the pads? if so make sure its leaded and tin 60 40 sodler not lead free sodler. lead free solder can grow tin wiskers
The fab house I use does not offer pre-tinning options on flex cables, and the next cheapest fab house that does requires a $2000 setup and tooling fee. That sort of cost for something that only saves the user 20 seconds isn’t a good tradeoff for me.
I’ve sent this design out for prototyping. The fab house I use for prototypes takes a lot longer to produce small runs, so I don’t know when I’ll get it.
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Just received the prototypes for my ‘unconventional solution’. No spoilers, but initial testing looks good. Some minor issues were observed, and some alterations were made accordingly. Revised prototype for this alternate avenue is out to the fab house again; I hope to introduce more mechanical stability. This ‘unconventional’ solution is looking so promising that I may actually scrap the 2.0 VirtualCable if I can make the numbers work. Stay tuned!
Hi, RetroDan
Any updates about this? Today my left display stopped working 🙁
Do you accept orders for your cable?
Thanks and hope you’re doing well 🙂
This Virtual cable seems the best option. However, if those cables are not available anymore i thought that maybe we can build a less-pro option:
We could take a 30 pin 0.5 pitch connector to DIP converter. Then, with AWG30 wire, we should solder line by line to the converter. Finally with a 30pin 0.5 pitch ribbon flat cable, make the connection.
PROs: We do not have to solder on the motherboard: The 30 pin connector is too close to the capacitors and also the wires do not route naturally to the pins of the connector. Making it this way leaves the door open for future replacements. Also the soldering operation on the DIP area is much easier than the motherboard.It is cheaper than manufacturing the custom ribbon cable (if it has to be re-manufactured again).
CONs: The display has to be soldered anyway. We are adding more parts to the assembly and probably we will need to create some kind of attachment with a 3D printer to attach this converter to the VB (I was thinking on the bolts on the corners -not the ones that attach the display to the plastic-).
This is the converter:
Amazon. Converter.
This is the AWG30 wire:
Amazon. 30 AWG wire.
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Just stumbled across this thread. If you do make any more of these, I would be interested in a pair to replace a botched set of ribbon cables I recently removed from the lenses.