My question is in the title, I would like to hear from some of the big dogs that have these roms and why they really don’t want them released, as the excuse that the carts value will go down is absolutely absurd. It is only a matter of time before someone like myself releases them, I bought 2 of the rares and plan on buying the other 2 before the year is out, and could give a rats ass if those roms got released. There are a lot of people out there that could never afford to drop the amount of money it takes to get the rares, but shouldnt they be able to play the games anyway since isnt that what they were intended for, to be played. Thank you for your time in reading this rambling and for your responses.
how many virtual boy games even sell for that much any more? i really think the financial expectations of these games has been exaggerated lately. i’ve been in the vb market for a long time and have seen these titles drop in price rather smoothly for years.
i think the rom release of the four rare games is troublesome to people because they are the last hold out of financial profit in the vb scene. there are few people willing to pay the prices of the unreleased prototypes and even fewer people who are willing to sell them. having been involved in it for quite some time, i think the unreleased vb trading market is stale as hell. i’ve gotten what i imagine i can get out of it with very little left that i even care about. dragon hopper is the only thing i would still really like to get my hands on but i dont see it happening because of the self-ascribed super-collector status of whoever has it.
that being said, i understand where the concerns of those who are worried about the games decreasing financial value lies. who would want the worth of their item to drop? nobody. unfortunately thats the case with these vb games. i can see why some people think the roms may be a large contributing factor but i cant agree with them. even though i own some really rare vb stuff i dont care if the value falls to nothing. i don’t like vb because its rare. i like it because its fun. in my mind its better that it becomes more easily accessible to anyone who wants it. nintendo is not making any more money off of it, so why should some hoarding collectors? perhaps if there was a large fan market for it online then nintendo would recognize this and utilize some of the vb titles, including the unreleased ones, on the virtual console.
as they say, if you love something, let it go (to shit in value).
That’s because they’re less rare. Ikaruga will set you back $100-$200 and that game was released only a few years ago. I won’t be suprised if that game will set you back $1000+ in another few years. Not because it’s worth that much money (although it’s considered a classic already), but just because there will be undoubtly a person willing to spend a lot of money on the only copy available on ebay.
Besides that, it’s all depending on how much people are looking for a particular at a particular time. If you got two people bidding against eachother for Space Invaders on the Virtual Boy, the paid price could be very high, but if there’s only one guy bidding at ebay, he’ll probably get it for a lot less.
I saw that game in Tokyo a few months ago when I bought my VB. It was around 70-90 euro. Didn’t buy it though.
The Virtual Boy doesn’t have a large installed base, so all prices are based on a few fanatics. They’re just based on the price the last copy went for. Value = rarity * crazy people willing to spend a lot of money.
There are no stable prices, because there isn’t a real market.
Dumped games won’t change a thing. Selfish gamers who cry about their ultra-rare games being dumped: grow up.
they just don’t want people to play games they paid hundreds of dollars for. That’s all it is.
The last sale of the rares that I know of was a Virtual Bowling and SD Gundam for $1800 earlier this year. So, either $900 a piece, or more realistically, $1000 for Bowling, $800 for SD Gundam. So yes… the prices, at least then, were still up there. And I’m guessing I’ve been in the VB market a little longer than you jojobean… I’ve been collecting since 2000. I’ve seen things go up, down, and fluctuate like crazy. But I have still never seen a Gundam sell for less than $600 or a Bowling for less than $750 (but as I’ve said many times, I’m not talking about long term prices or trends, because that has nothing to do with the single event of releasing a ROM).
Murfo: If you’re trying to slam on me for arguing that value will drop from a released dump (with proof to back up my statements, unlike your unsubstantiated claims that nothing happens), sorry… I don’t have a financial interest in these games… I don’t own SD Gundam or Bowling… and I really don’t care about the couple hundred that my VLab or Space Invaders will drop… I’m just stating facts. Lets see some proof of any of your argument… or better yet, let’s see your argument… all you’ve said is an opinion that dumped games won’t change anything.
And if I sound angry about those dumps getting released, it’s because I am… those dumps that were released were dumped in confidence of the original owners so that there’d be a safe backup of the games. The agreement with the owners was to not release them. I would have had no problem at all had they been new dumps created from their own carts, or with permission of the cart owners. I would have personally liked that actually, because I don’t think dumps should be hoarded… but I completely understand why the people that own the carts won’t agree to have them dumped unless they’re kept private. I just REALLY hope this one incident won’t affect our ability to get prototypes in the future, but sadly, I wouldn’t be surprised if collectors wouldn’t trust anyone in the VB community to dump their rare stuff anymore.
And I’m guessing I’ve been in the VB market a little longer than you jojobean… I’ve been collecting since 2000. I’ve seen things go up, down, and fluctuate like crazy. But I have still never seen a Gundam sell for less than $600 or a Bowling for less than $750
i have no idea why you assume you have been in the vb market longer than i have dogp. not only was that an unjustified assumption; it was wrong. in 2000 is when i made my first step towards buying games that were a little more rare, such as insmouse and space squash. i was aware of the other games, i just didn’t have the means of purchasing them. so i think its safe to say i was in the market. also, you may be right in saying that you havent seen those two games go for less than those prices, but that doesnt mean thay dont. i bought both of those for less than those prices, and while i felt i was getting a deal, i didnt think the prices i bought them for were unheard of.
i would like to make mention, dogp, that i have been a personal collector of virtual boy items for quite some time. i have also had close interaction with many of its unreleased materials, as have you. my interactions, however, were the result of my working a marketing position for a video game company. as one could guess, marketing involves knowing the product market very well. so to assume that you are the authority on virtual boy is ridiculous. for me to assume it is ridiculous as well. i’ll give you all the credit in the world for your contributions to the virtual boy scene, but thats a bit different than what we’ve been talking about. while i dont agree with your assessment of the virtual boy market’s current financial structure, you’re entitled to your opinion. one thing you aren’t entitled to is trying to claim superiority over me in the existing virtual boy market by your false assumptions.
as far as i see it, i’m done arguing this. we’ve made our cases known and now we’re getting to a point of who’s the more uber collector. lets stop.
jojobean wrote:
as far as i see it, i’m done arguing this. we’ve made our cases known and now we’re getting to a point of who’s the more uber collector. lets stop.
That’s right cause the ONLY uber collector around here is me!!! 😀 I’m sorry I’m kidding all I got is the Blockbuster case. My collection is so small.
jojobean wrote:
i have no idea why you assume you have been in the vb market longer than i have dogp. not only was that an unjustified assumption; it was wrong. in 2000 is when i made my first step towards buying games that were a little more rare, such as insmouse and space squash.
I apologize… I was wrong, although you seem to be taking it personally… I said “I’m guessing” because I didn’t know, although my assumption was from being in the scene so long, and never talking to you or hearing of you until this year (and seeing your join date of this year).
jojobean wrote:
as far as i see it, i’m done arguing this. we’ve made our cases known and now we’re getting to a point of who’s the more uber collector. lets stop.
I agree… I’m done w/ this thread… although sorry if you took it as trying to prove who’s the uber collector… I don’t claim to be, because there are many others out there with much nicer collections than I (and I’m pretty good friends with several of them). As most people should be able to tell, I’m more interested in VB hacking/dev than collecting, although that really doesn’t have anything to do w/ this thread.
Anyway, maybe one of the mods can lock this thread so nobody can revive this thread later.
