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Understood
@pocketRegistered December 14, 2005Active 11 years, 1 month ago
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I am not going to pretend that this is authentic, but it is worth showing. I would imagine that it was done by Blockbuster for the purpose of display, a looong time ago- before it would have been worth selling as rare or sealed. Strange thing is, it has a game inside.

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This is the most advanced soldering I’ve ever had to do. I’m a bit discouraged, solder seems to sit on top of the brown goo. My first attempt knocked some of the connections around a bit, so to say Im having trouble is an understatement. I would say that the trick is to touch nothing except solder, and move the ball around… but it doesn’t seem to penetrate the adhesive very well. Sodium Hyrdoxide seems to have little effect on the adhesive. I am using oven cleaner, as weapons-grade lye is pretty hard to come by. Advice is greatly appreciated from anyone who has gone through this- I have read every post thus far on the topic and I am still overwhelmed. Its so small! Failure is not an option, I have a bunch that need this procedure.

I have put it off long enough and I am finally going to attemp soldering.

I will make my first attempt on a VB with absolutely no video from either side. After examining both left and right ribbons, I can see no visual damage or lifting of the adhesive. My question/concerns: Is there always a visable indication that the adhesive has failed? Should I trust in the pictures and solder in the exact locations everyone is recommending?

Laugh out loud! VB has never given me a headache… this did after 3 lines.

Hope you all like this if you havn’t seen it already. this may be related or similar tech. I found it a long time ago working on wii stuff and just never thought to post it here. I heard that this guy was offered a job from microsoft following this and his other inventions. Even if it is not the same principle… it still has a million implications for 3d gaming in the future. I just don’t think the corporations are done milking the 2d market yet… but just imagine playing space squash.

Thanks, I needed that. I’ll do some touch-up on it and repost.

I cleaned up the image a bit. Print this at 2.04″ wide and 1.64″ tall.
If you look close you will see the changes I made, but I don’t have time to make it perfect right now. I have printed many things this small, and black is usually the biggest problem, but I made it truly black. This image is big enough that when printed, most people would never know the difference. The paper is key. You need high gloss white sticker paper. Clean the cart with mineral spirits & cotton, and then denatured alcohol. Apply mild heat w/ hairdryer, & sticker is forever. Good idea, btw. I have 2 pinballs w/ no sticker, we should do a scan for that. Nice scan kri55e.

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RunnerPack:
thanks for your help so far.
Surprisingly, I dont have any s-video cables for any of my systems 🙁

This is a screenshot from a gamecube using composite and the ‘dazzle’. Once I have some s-cables, I will post the difference.
Printscreen works while running the dazzle, so Im not really recording with it, just using it to play the games.

The whole thing seems to contradict logic: I dont see the difference between a pixelated digital image in a game, and a bitmap- type image on a computer. I would think you would get a perfect translation from one to the other, as long as the cables themselves can support the resolution of the image, and I would think composite would be adequate for older games. Forgive my ignorance… but hey, Im trying to learn. I just have too many projects at one time to focus. Thanks for the insight, though.

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before you go, check google finance. might as well buy some stocks.
or get a ‘gray’s sports almanac’ before you go back.

One of my boxed units has a green sticker that says:
NEW LOW PRICE $24.99

First, I would like to change ‘high-resolution’ to
‘close-up’.

second, console types.
-nes
-snes
-n64
-gamecube
-genesis
-saturn
-dreamcast
-3d0
-xbox (and 360)
-ps1,2,3.
-anything that uses rca jacks (composite)

Shouldn’t a device capable of playing these types
of consoles (via the pc, not just the monitor)
put a useable image on the screen and I
could just press printscreen?
Does such a device exist?

the limiting factor you were talking about
is actually the rca jacks. I dont have s-video cables for
lots of these consoles- so the standard is r/w/y rca jacks.
obviously, that is quite a bottleneck in the picture
quality i will be able to get. I just want to get the best I
can from them.

thanks for help so far. I need to play with this
thing (dazzle) some more, but so far it seems
way to small of an image to work with.

So far that ‘sweetspot’ seems to be pretty badass, but im still researching.

  • This reply was modified 15 years, 2 months ago by pocket.

i dont get it.
Thats all solid material- that thing should not crack.
Nintendo’s version wasn’t even solid like that,
and it was just regular old black plastic.

Maybe you should make an aluminum
(professional grade) model. Black anodized
would be awesome.

What a frustrating problem 🙁

Hmmm. Youre right, polyethelene is the perfect material.
But where to find it in black… Im going to ‘Home Depot’
in a minute, I’ll look around for ideas. It is a readily
available material.

I dont know what those kneepads are, but they
are nice cause the thing slides so easy. The medallion
is full of liquid nails, one of those quick fixes that
ends up permanent.

I Think its actually more sturdy this way than with the
diagonals the way they are intended to be used.

If you look even closer at the pic u will see that I made the
top clip, too. Its kinda funny, I must have 15 functional stands,
and I use this one thats all jerry-rigged from spare parts :p

Thanks for posting that… funny simplified history.

I love how it (and many other condensed histories on the subject)
refer to it as ‘failure’ and ‘mistake’.

I think the failure belongs to the public, as it was all of our
mistake to not accept the relevance of this thing when it
came out. I dont accept it as a failure in any context except in
the timing.

It is easy to be resistant to change, even when it is an innovative
change… but sooner or later video games will have no choice but to venture down this path again. Remember the lawnmower man? We will get there someday.

-ok. im off my soapbox 🙂

RunnerPack-
I completely agree, it looks like polyethylene to me, too.

Hedgetrimmer-
Good luck getting the burrs out of it, its nearly impossible. This stuff cant be sanded because its sooooo abrasion resistant. Maybe this can be sanded just because its so little, but the burrs really arent bad enough to lose sleep over.

Its seriously tough stuff though, so it will never break, even if you never radius the inside corners. I have some little scraps, and a piece the size of a pencil can not be broken by hand.

I would also like to suggest maybe a countertop shop… they have scraps from sink cut-outs… a material called “Corian” or the like may be appropriate. It comes in black, and should be machinable. And they will prbly just give you their’ scrap.

Anyhow, thats really nice so far… but heres my solution 🙂
(the medallion in my pic is destroyed)

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Thats a seriously nice little part. Good idea.

Out of curiosity, did u use a CNC type machine? What material did u use?

I wish I had access to machining stuff. u could sell quite a few of those if they are easy to make. imo i would like black with red lettering. sorry, just my opinion.

Compressed air!

It will make it lok new, without washing it. If you have access to an air compressor, spray it full blast up close and it will clean it deep down. I use mine to clean the insides of all sorts of delicate video game stuff, electronics, etc. Works great on cloth.

!!! Literally-
laughed out loud!

At least tanooki’s first one had free shiping.
****ing hell.
Somebody should have thought of this before.

Sorry, Tanuki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanuki

hmmm… sounds great. Unfortunately, I am highly skeptical that this isn’t one of the methods I have already tried, or one of the methods already discussed here. Everybody knows what the problem part is now, so if you have a simple solution, please share. Good luck with your repair service, but most people here would prbly prefer to do it their self (I have a pile of them that need repair).

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kinda gets annoying, how everyone thinks they are sitting on a gold mine on eBay.

It only helps to further inflate the prices of vb games, making it difficult for everybody to have a decent collection of games to play. I guess im just as guilty, as the collector type. I would pay quite a bit for say… sealed jack bros.. But the part of me that loves to play games is pissed that I will probably never play some titles.

I have tons of black rubber, it is about an 1/8″ thick. If you give me dimensions, I could send you a piece. (if that’s the stuff you need).